“People Hate Islam? Yes They Do! It’s Time To Have That Talk,” says Wan Nor.

Wan Nor continues her discussion about sensitive issues in Malaysia, the ones which many of us are afraid to tackle and which the authorities discourage us from having; however, we need these conversations and must engage with one another, to find solutions to our problems.

People Hate Islam? Yes They Do! It’s Time To Have That Talk.”

Part 1 – Where Does the Hate Come From?

When a leader of an Islamist Party says “People hate Islam”, it’s possibly the epitome of hypocrisy.

When a political leader is said to use ‘bai’ah talak tiga’, or pronouncement of conditional divorce for wives leaving party membership, as an oath of allegiance to his party, it is an attack on the family institution.

When a political leader preaches hate, extremism, radicalism, and allegedly harbours connections in support of those linked to terror, he incubates terrorism.

The indoctrination through an Islamisation that has nothing to do with islam, creates the Malay Islamist Archetype.

Many people would consider these politico-Islamist-theologians as tall weed plants bending to the force of the wind. One minute, the Chinese political party is friend, the next it is foe. One minute their Muslim brother is kafir, the next he is declared apostate. They can’t seem to make up their minds on how their fatwas should be decreed. They have difficulty determining which book should be banned, and then they forget why in the first place it was banned.

Tall weed? No, not at all. These are people who stand firm in their intention and their targets. These are people who dress the part. They clearly have just one objective: themselves. Whatever suits them, whatever empowers them, whatever gives them authority to oppress and suppress, whatever justifies their action; that is the path they take! 

The three-prong approach

The politico-Islamist-theologian will use a three-prong approach to ensure effective indoctrination: chronic ignorance; forced dependence on the religious leader, in this case the ulama; and obviously, fear.

His ultimate goal is totalitarian power. His tactic is three-fold: religious validation of patriarchal power; empowerment of fake ulama; and, the safeguard of ketuanan or Malay self-entitlement.These are locked in using man-made syariah law, a law that is selectively enforced by persons who reek of incapacity. His victim will be transformed into a Malay Islamist Archetype. If Malaysia wishes to rid the country of this cancer, de-radicalisation initiatives would need to neutralise these elements.

The attack

How does the politico-Islamist-theologian attack? He will create desperation and then offer the solution.

It is like a bomoh, a Malay witch doctor, who tells a man that his wife is being abused by an invisible evil force. Then he offers, to heal her; the only way would be through penetration, him deep inside her. Or, it is like a fireman who sets fire to the village, and then is around to try to save villagers from the fire. When the smoke has disappeared and the ashes are white, what do the villagers do? They hail him as their hero.

In the same way, when a politico-Islamist-theologian says “People hate Islam”, it is to position himself as provider of the solution. Remember that, in the first place, the source of the problem was him; hate, extremism and radicalisation, stemmed from indoctrination through ignorance, dependence and fear. And what will the Malay Islamist Archetype do? He will welcome this solution, perhaps as the only religiously acceptable solution. And thus, together they will create hell on earth for themselves and for everyone around them. It’s a form of Talibanism.

The Malay Islamist Archetype is merely a vehicle for indoctrination, they carry the message of hate and extremism; but they are not the source.

Effective de-radicalisation would require us to neutralise the source. The source is the politico-Islamist-theologian whose one and only focus is himself, and whose one and only goal is totalitarian power.

This is what is happening to us

Whilst they play their game of Islamisation that has nothing to do with islam, what happens to the rest of us?

I observe the Muslims drifting into three groups.

Firstly, those whose conscience is so strong that it forces them to reject the Malay version of Islam, they become atheists or deists, or whatever else they end up calling themselves. They go into hiding knowing that they are deemed apostates, thus their ‘blood is halal’. This means that violence directed towards them, or even the indiscriminate slaughter of apostates by extremists is justifiable; it is halal!

The second group is made up of those who refuse to stand down, and who enter a phase of in-depth contemplation, usually centralised on the Quran, in search of the truth, to try to defend Islam and uphold their faith. They are accused of being anti-hadith and identified as deviant. They too are forced underground.

The third and largest group is made up of those who are too afraid, and too confused to do anything. They resign to the prison of followers. Their silence makes them guilty by association. All three groups have one thing in common: hatred for the Malay-made-Islam.

And you wonder why people hate Islam? All this hatred and extremism has destroyed the reputation and faith of the Muslims. It has damaged Islam, a religion of peace which is positioned within the philosophy of compassion and mercy.

The only way out is to uplift the Muslims from this trap. The question is: How? The dilemma is: Who?

(The views expressed are those of the contributor)


Wan Nor writes under the byline, “Hard Questions By Wan Nor”.

Wan Nor, PhD, scientist, born and raised in Britain. Through her deep sense of commitment to Malaysia, she seeks workable solutions in this climate of uncertainty and, at times, hopelessness.

For her full profile, please see this link.

If you like this article and would like to continue the conversation with Wan Nor, look out for Part 2 of “People Hate Islam? Yes They Do! It’s Time To Have That Talk.”

Part 2 – Understanding the Game of the Politico-Islamist-Theologian and His Army of Malay Islamist Archetype Soldiers


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  • Moose says:

    There you go again, ‘religion of peace’ bla bla bla and what ‘trap?’

    Here’s a repeat:

    Talking about Mufti Ismail Menk.

    I already wrote about this many times.

    There are many tele preachers like this, they know where the problem lies and it’s within their powers to gather all other preachers and alims to exert and effect change within the ummah.

    However, the more influence they have and the bigger their fan base, the more they whimper and avoid the issue, lest somebody out there puts a knife in their backs.

    They know, we know, I know, you know, the global population knows and whomsoever on planet Uranus knows, where these teaching templates come from.

    From the Qur’an and our other religious texts.

    Thus, their rethorics and narrative to avoid the obvious.

    He mentioned ‘kuffars’ the idiot then, is the problem himself for mentioning the obvious problem with the ummah, calling all of God’s other creation ‘kuffars.

    Here is that ‘true faith’ in a nutshell.

    Out of the world’s 7.4 billion population, we Muslims brand 5.6 billion God’s other creation all sorts of the divisive, denigrating, hateful pejorative ‘kafirs’ (infidels), we run them, their religion and their places of worship at every opportunity we get, subject them to the all verses of violence and their blood is kosher, permissable, halal to take, all the easier to subjugate, convert or kill without remorse for the never ending yearning mandate of a Global Muslim Caliphate, the supremacist Islamist doctrine of world domination.

    Islam spends 60% of its texts on the ‘kafirs’.

    Out of the 1.8 billion Muslims, we brand other Muslims who differ in their understanding of Islam or for not following through the mandates, the sectarian slur ‘takfiris’ (apostates) all the easier to kill them all without remorse too.

    That’s what these naming (istilah) and shaming about. To kill without remorse.

    The Sunnis declare the Shias ‘takfiris’ and likewise the Shiah the Sunnis. So too are the Ahmadiyyahs, Wahhabist, Salafist and many more sects.

    Then, there are other Muslims who have reserved to themselves the right to declare any Muslim a ‘takfiri’, as well as any non-Muslim and their blood too, is halal to take.

    That makes 100% of Muslims at each others throats. And the throats of non-Muslims.

    And where does all these teaching templates come from might I ask?

    You answer that, this telep!teacher even suggests that, your and his akidah then is suspect, you are an unbeliever and death awaits you, from a lonewolf killer or rarely, the shariah courts because they never will send you there for ‘justice.’

    So you shut the hell up. So does this telepreacher, playing merry-go-round with us ummah.

    And then, we spend a considerable amount of time and space, on halal, harams, injunctions, rhetoric’s, narratives and Islamic, historical, concocted stories and metaphors to defend the indefensible.

    Yes, Islam is a religion of peace, ooops… the peaceful verses have been abrogated and replaced with the verses of violence and never reinstated.

    Muslims are the same anywhere, we read the same immutable Quran and our other religious texts, we hate ‘ kafirs’ and ‘takfiris’ just the same and we can be triggered or activated into a mob by that current, on-going mandates of hate to kill or act against all of ‘kafirs’ and ‘ takfiris’…..sooner or later.

    And that, are the truisms being played out throughout the world and it continues in the madrassahs with our children, grand children and for generations to come.

    For the next 1438 years, it will progressively get worst, nothing will change.

    For that is the message of Islam, to subjugate, convert or kill all non- Muslims, the ‘kafirs’ and ‘takfiris’ for the decreed mandate of a global Muslim caliphate.

    A majority of us ummah refuse to kill for whatever reason, that puts us at loggerheads with other ‘true Muslims’ another istilah, another branding, coined to kill the peaceful ummah without remorse.

    There are many, the walking dreamers, teaching their children ‘prim and proper’ Islam, while the Qur’an teacher, the religious teacher, the alim ulamaks, the Muslim society around us, the Friday sermons and the blaring mosque speakers changes, erase and indoctrinate our children into closeted little syaitans, waiting to be activated, on some future date.

    I see the changes in the way my children are taught, too.

    The Muslim world have continuously failed to produce just and prosperous societies.

    We need a reformation, plain and simple just like the Christian’s ”scriptural inerrancy.’

    I see the changes in the way my children are taught, too.

    The Muslim world have continuously failed to produce just and prosperous societies.

    We need a reformation,

    No need to talk about reclaiming Islam from the ulamak fasiks or any ulamak who teaches violent, divisive and exclusive Islam.

    Islam needs reforming.

    For 1439 years the “Perfect Religion” cannot even nurture an ummah as polite, punctual, kind, hard-working, respectful, intelligent, clean and as thriving as the melding of Shinto and Buddhism had nutured the Japanese people.

    Nor build a country as peaceful, safe, progressive, productive where women are given a place in their societies as in Japan.

    And there are no invented ‘kafirs’ to be discontented with, all of which that Islam has failed to establish in all the countries under Islamic precepts and shariah.

    Why do they hate us?

    • Moose says:

      ‘The third and largest group is made up of those who are too afraid, and too confused to do anything. ‘

      Except writing with a semblance of defending the indefensible.

      That includes you, Wan Nor.

    • Don Rugdee says:

      What a brave and honest comment. I salute you.

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